36th St. Lounge in Wyoming, MI

by Jenn Altman
(Grand Rapids, MI, USA)

I've been working at this bar on & off for years (only off because it's closed down a couple times), and have heard/seen weird stuff many times. I'm not the only one, either. Many of my co-workers & some of our customers have, too.


Last week a couple of our regulars actually caught stuff (orbs) on their digital camera.

I have heard voices, weird knocking noises inside the pint cooler, a sound like a bowling ball dropping and rolling across our stage, etc.

I've also seen the apparition of a man in the basement (near where the customers took the pictures, actually). Other things that have happened to my co-workers include:

-my old boss, Juls, saw a man walk through our lobby after closing. She sent the bouncers looking through the whole building. Nothing.

-a former bartender was grabbing beers from the back cooler and was repeatedly tapped on the shoulder. Irritated, she turned to yell at someone. No one was there.

-a huge pot of spaghetti sauce upended itself while sitting flat on the floor of another cooler.
-lights turn on and off sometimes randomly (though that could be faulty wiring...).

-Once, while I was opening, someone said my name right behind me. I was the only one in the building at the time, though it was plain as day.

I found out, after having been there awhile, that a former worker was shot to death in the basement office, although people have described him, and it doesn't seem to be the man that Julz and I saw. So I wonder what else happened there...?

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Sep 13, 2022
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Shot manager
by: Scott Lucky

I was the other bus boy fired the day before the manager was shot. Since I normally opened the restaurant, the person that found him was doing my job. Little 14 year old me was a suspect for that murder

Mar 19, 2022
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RIP Richie NEW
by: Anonymous

My husband and I were the last 2 to leave that night Richie was shot. He locked the back door behind us and we asked him to go with us. Lenny did not like anyone being there alone. Others have it correct, he was killed in the office by the ex managers son because she was fired. I have not been back since finding out the next morning. I still feel awful for his family.

Jul 30, 2021
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setting it straight NEW
by: Anonymous

i worked at lennies place when this all happened to Ritchie.

yes, his name was Ritchie, a manager at lennies place. he was shot in the basement by cody, a former busboy and son of the terminated manager that Ritchie replaced. i guess cody was disgruntled that his mom was fired and replaced after so many years of service at lennies place.
steve, a cook, found him the next morning. i worked that night but marybeth sent me home after the dinner rush. Ritchie was a recent hire and i did not get to know him well but i can tell by other comments, he would've been a terrific boss. all my best.

susan, boston, ron, kim, marybeth, steve, aaron, mikey...miss you guys. was fun working with you.

Jan 21, 2021
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Revenge NEW
by: Anonymous

Did they ever catch the robbers , and or the murderer of ritchie

Dec 06, 2017
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We were family NEW
by: Anonymous

I worked there for 12 yrs with Richie and basically his whole family worked there too. We were a close bunch and Richie was loved by everyone. His murder forever changed many of our lives, joe mamas son was involved but not the shooter, this boy grew up there, it was terrible, but I truly don't believe he thought it was going to end up that way, but that's just my thoughts. Anyway , lennies father, yes supposeably connected with the mob along with Apollo the owner of the Chez committed suicide in the downstairs office. It haunted lennie, and it's the office where Richie died also. Lennie would always say if you get robbed give them the money....we always had large amounts of cash on Thursday to cash fm checks. Many of my old friends and co workers have died or have tragic things happen to them. I have not stepped in there since Richie died, because if he could appear, he would just to mess with me. I'm so sorry his life ended there, he wanted to be a firefighter but those damn sinuses. Love to those who know these memories.

Dec 19, 2014
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RBM NEW
by: Deb

RBM. That was Richie's nane in high school :). Rich was
the sweetest person I knew. I still haven't met a person as kind and it has been 30+ years since I first met RBM. I miss him.

Dec 19, 2014
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RBM NEW
by: Deb

RBM. That was Richie's nane in high school :). Rich was
the sweetest person I knew. I still haven't met a person as kind and it has been 30+ years since I first met RBM. I miss him.

Nov 17, 2014
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... NEW
by: Anonymous

Richie was the one shot and killed at the bar. Lenny (my father) died from brain cancer. Richie was shot by a former employee's son.

Oct 31, 2014
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Information not true NEW
by: Anonymous

Not one of you have any correct information on this page! I was there through it all. Sorry Aaron that you have to encounter this on the internet. Richie was a good man!

Oct 31, 2014
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Information not true NEW
by: Anonymous

Not one of you have any correct information on this page! I was there through it all. Sorry Aaron that you have to encounter this on the internet. Richie was a good man!

Aug 25, 2013
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Brenda Hoke is my Aunt!!! & i still live here in Wyoming NEW
by: Mike Hoke

I live like right down the street from lenny's aka 36th st lounge. & i am 27, i've been going to the lounge for some time now shit, before i was even 21 i would go their just for grilled cheese & virgin strawbrry dackerry! since i turned 21 i still go to get shit faced! Anyway yeah i know all the story's & seen all the weird shit their too! me & that building go waaaaay back! my aunt brenda Hoke & i have some history w/ wyoming mi. we personaly are kinda on f***ed up terms now but she still luv's me just as i luv her! And we've both seen the spirit's their. Each one has a different story you ask them yerself. They've done messed w/ my aunt & i so much to the point that we have not too much of a aunt/ nefue relationship anymore... They'll mess w/ ya they will.....

Oct 24, 2012
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Info NEW
by: Me

The man who was shot in the bar was (as previously stated!) Richie. He was shot while in a BASEMENT office. Yes, they do hang a stocking for him.
I have also heard what sounds like a bowling ball on the stage. I've seen someone walk across the dance floor AFTER close when the employees were behind the bar and in the kitchen on a few occassions.

Oct 24, 2012
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Info NEW
by: Me

The man who was shot in the bar was (as previously stated!) Richie. He was shot while in a BASEMENT office. Yes, they do hang a stocking for him.
I have also heard what sounds like a bowling ball on the stage. I've seen someone walk across the dance floor AFTER close when the employees were behind the bar and in the kitchen on a few occassions.

Oct 21, 2012
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My father NEW
by: Aaron

That was Richard Allen morris my father who was shit and killed back then in the robbery

Mar 19, 2012
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Richard Morris (RBM) NEW
by: Friend

Richie was the man killed during the robbery. I went to school with Richie, he was a kind hearted man and a good friend.I remember hearing he was shot in the office of the lower floor. It was devastating news. I still think of him and miss him.

Jan 08, 2012
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Grew up next door to lennys family
by: Brenda hoke

I grew up in cascade mich,next door to lenny,his brother n sister kim,.one time after lenny died ,i went to have drinks,went to the bathroom and someone said my name in my ear!,i felt it was lenny,cause we knew each other.I left after that and have not been back there again.

Dec 03, 2011
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who died
by: Anonymous

Richie is the name of the guy who got shot and killed. They even hang up a black stocking just for for him behind the bar.

Sep 29, 2011
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Lenny
by: Anonymous

Lenny died from brain cancer according to a former employee of his. The man that was shot was a bartender and manager. He was shot by a family member of another employee (inside job). This happened upstairs not in the basement.

May 29, 2011
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the truth
by: Anonymous

It wasn't Lenny. He died from a heart attack. It was one of his employees.

Feb 03, 2011
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Remember when it was Lenny's?
by: Anonymous

I heard that it was the old owner Lenny was the one who was shot in his office down stairs. Suposedly by some mobsters. Who knows if it's true or not.

Nov 20, 2010
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whatever
by: Anonymous

You are the dumbest

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